Saturday, July 27, 2024

Eve -> Wisdom -> Reasoning -> Dialectic

This passage is totally fascinating. How did that Agrippa guy realize this shit...?

I mean, I was kind of given jigsaw puzzles to solve, but did he as well? :-/


Btw, side tracking on the issue of scholasticism and dialectism -- it seems like this very classical Greek approach to knowledge and truth *really* doesn't vibe with me. It feels like I suddenly realized where modern philosophy was birthed from and my mind shrieked in horror LOL


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48QMQNdZCqA

The Occult Philosophy of Cornelius Agrippa - 2 of X - Life and Works
By "ESOTERICA" (Dr. Justin Sledge)

(Emphases mine)

Adam had these magical miraculous abilities to manipulate nature; if you
reconcile yourself to God or if you become in the process of reconciling
oneself to God, you would get similar kinds of powers. So magic here at this
time period is in some sense a byproduct of that reconciliation. So as one is
reconciled back to the Divine, original sin is sort of washed off, and as
original sin is washed off so to speak one would gain those prelapsarian Powers
over nature, and that is simply what Agrippa at this time and many people this
time thought of as ultimately what's going to be magic. So that's magic in a in
a short sense of a definition of how one would get these sort of powers. Now
one of the things that's happened is that when the fall occurred, this fall is of
course brought on by Eve, and the mythology that Agrippa develops is that
Eve represents wisdom or Reason rather she represents sort of like dialectical
reasoning and she kind of infected Adam with this dialectical reasoning this
kind of logical reasoning which he also Associates by the way with
scholasticism. This has made it such that human beings have tried to reason
their way to to the Divine, Agrippa thinks that's not going to work you can't
reason your way back to the Divine, because the mind itself is somehow fallen-
in fact it's being duded in some sense by reason itself. And so what has to
happen -- again this is where the more Protestant side Agrrippa's thought pops
out -- is that the only way to restore that is through a type of Faith, but a
mystically informed faith that shorts that circuit. You can't reason your way
back to the Divine, but what you can do is your mind can leap up to the Divine
and it can sort of short the circuit between yourself and God, and that
shorting of that circuit is achieved by kind of mystical faith, and the
mechanisms by which to use that mystical Faith are encoded in texts like text
of the Kabbalah and text of the Corpus Hermeticum. So the idea is the further
we get back in time the further we get access to technologies that allow us to
reconcile ourselves to God, because people back then were just closer to the
Divine. The fall of human beings was simply closer to them and therefore they
weren't as "fallen" as we are now. This idea of the essential aspect of faith
and really faith alone by which one reconciles oneself to God, which again has
this kind of protestant bent to it in a certain kind of way, this is going to
do two things for Agrippa.

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