Both?

Hard mode quest: To satisfy both spirit and body.

Drop

Like a drop in the ocean.

ACIM notes

creation = sharing&extension, over division, projection

oneness

indestructible truth

more convergence... and divergence

And more convergence. If one seeks and listens, and only trusts information repeated by at least 2 or 3 different sources, they will probably miss very little legit stuff.

And divergence -- what to make of the base facts diverge wildly, because it seems every source has a different goal which they generally hint at (while repeating their recommendations and advice)

abstract dynamic systems

When trying to corroborate things purportedly from divine sources, I keep realizing I need some framework to model and describe abstract dynamic systems...

In a sense that is all that we are, because our cultural facts don't matter as much to them.

In another sense, we must be gods to understand how gods think.

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Let's say we want to explain why it is hard to "lie" in spirit.

Deception requires a held true belief and a communicated false belief. But while it is superficially possible to "lie" in the physical world because the materials don't respond much to the conflicting thoughts, the conflicting thoughts seem to cause a problem in spirit because what is believed is what is real and is what is radiated.

In the animal world there is a physical reality and a layer of symbols (eg. words, or other communication methods like vision or sounds) that purport to reflect the reality but not physically required to be accurate. However at the higher/refined states it seems that it is hard to get there while carrying a bunch of contradicting baggage, and thus it seems difficult ( i wouldn't say impossible ) for things to carry a layer of deception that contradicts what the entity actually represents.

Information is definitely withheld though. Which is why even in urban legends, the devil does not lie, it simply withholds information.

"Soul" as the decision algorithm

This is a rough sketch but it seems to work.

The "soul" is the decision algorithm. The reaction from circumstances.

It is not the body-mind.

It is not the memory.

And the "soul" that inhabits the body-mind can be changed.

It is the invariant in the "what would I do in these circumstances?" kind of thinking.  If two things react the same way given the same circumstances, it must then be the same identical thing.

The question is how much auxiliary memory does the "soul" possess and why does it have such memory? 

This idea must be further explored and consolidated.

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Note that people tend to identify with their memory and life experiences, which apparently the "soul" is not quite that thing. People tend to regret, but their soul-as-decision-algorithm is hardly changed, with the only notable difference being the availability of hindsight. That sort of regret is meaningless.

It seems that changing one's decision algorithm does make a difference though, and apparently such change is spiritually profound and is potent for righting wrongs.

This idea must also be further explored and consolidated.

convergence

 The rate that truth converges is faster than I ever thought it would.